Fram the Botme of the Baryl

Prattle

I hope this find you all in good health, a letter I received this week is cause for me to remind you of your duties when handling submissions. If you receive a submission and it has no documentation for a name, then if you have the information at hand easily by all means supply it, but if you don't you can either send it on to me in the hope I can do something with it, or return it to the submittor for then to do it. Only do the latter if you are sure that it will bounce with out the information they could supply.
I might also point out to people, that if something you submit is returned and I suggest something it does not have to be done, it is only a suggestion which I think will save difficulty later on. Please read what I write. Of course I am only human and so if you disagree with what I do, you are entirely within your rights to appeal. If you think I am wrong please resubmit in the normal way with the submissions forms and state why you think I am wrong. If you appeal I have to pass it onto Vesper Principal Herald, my boss above Tancred for her to judge.

Finances

6 New name submissions and 5 New Devices received for a total of $165 income and 5 new name and 5 New device submissions to send to vesper plus the $12 outstanding due to a misunderstanding two months ago for a total of $US72 to be sent to Vesper.

Submissions

SCA Name: Angharad Ferch Morgan

Mundane Name: Laura Walker
Group: Castellum Montanum

New name.
15
Permitted Name Changes: Changes to grammar and spelling to make it correct for indicated language

Language: Welsh
This name is intended to be Angharad Daughter of Morgan. Angharad: p 239 A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Commoner's of Great Britian and Ireland John Burke Esq. Vol II Genealogical Publishing Co. Inc. Baltimore. notes Angharad daughter of the Prince of North Wales 1021. See also Bartrum p 169 which lists a dozen Angharads. Morgan: p 90 The Dictionary of National Biography George Smith Volume XIII OUP Also Bartrum which lists 13 or so Morgans. ferch: Welsh feminine Patronymic, p26 Compleat Anachronist #66 "A Welsh Miscellany"
This should be quite a nice name.
Consulting Herald: Eleanor of Abergaveny

SCA Name: Bran AEluin Cu Chaille

Mundane Name: James Graywolfe
Group: Stormhold

New name and Device
30 Per pale and azure three torcs interlaced two and one openings to point all within an orle of thorns argent.
Permitted Name Changes: No Changes, not even a holding name.
Permitted Device Changes: None at all

Language: Irish / Old English
This name is intended to be First name Surname Nickname. Bran : OC&M p 33.
AEluin : Withycombe p 39
Cu Chaille: OC&M p63 meaning Wolf or Hound of the Woods. A rare early name.

It is argued that this is intended to be an early name and as such having the Old English Surname should be acceptable. Whilst I think the name would be much better off without it, it seems acceptable to my meager knowledge of Irish naming practises.
The device is also acceptable and seems clear. I am worried that it is a little thin line, but I will pass it on to those who know better.
Consulting Herald: Pedair na Cluen Bige

SCA Name: Margie of Glen Mor

Mundane Name: Margie Henley
Group: Stormhold
New name and device
30 Vert, three annulets interlinked, one and two argent
Permitted Name Changes: the submittor wishes to maintain the pronunciation of "Margie".
Permitted Device Changes: Some alternates listed.

Language: Scottish-English
Margie: it is argued can be formed as diminutive of Margaret, just as Elizabeth to Beth then Bess and Bessie p xxxi or Liz then Lizzy p206 in Withycombe. Joyce to Jossy dated 1273 p182 Withycombe, Jordan to Jurdi dated 1273 p 180 Withycombe. and Dary from David p80. of Glen Mor : the Great Glen in Scotland.

Whilst I am convinced that Margie exists, I refer to my future Sister-in-Law in this way, it raises the question as to what we are in fact registering. Do we register someone's legal name or there use name? Would Margie be a Baptismal Name? If not would they be referred to as Margie in a court of law? The answers to these questions are probably irrelevant so I will past it on. The device is a tricky one, as there is registered Vert, an inverted triangle of rope interlaced with three annulets argent Richeldis de Haute Saone (SCA May87). There is possibly one CD 2for the rope and one CD for the change of orientation of the major charge. As such I will pass this on.
Consulting Herald: None listed

SCA Name: Piers of Malmesbury
Mundane Name: Peter J Chappell
Group: Ynns Fawr
New name and Device
30 Per pale gules and azure, three arrows, one in pale points to chief, two in saltire points to base argent.
Permitted Name Changes: None not even holding name.
Permitted Device Changes: None at all.

Language: Norman English
Piers: Norman Version of Peter Withycombe p 243.
Malmesbury: Modern Spelling of a place that has existed since the 7th Century. p312 Ekwall. The spelling Malmesberie is dated to the Doomsday Book. So it could be argued that is in fact a period spelling.
This name seems perfectly acceptable. However, the 'of' would be nicer as a 'de' to be more correctly Norman.
See returns for device.
Consulting Herald: Name: Hr"olf Herj"olfsson
Device: Ciaran Faolchara

SCA Name: Steven Rosenwolf
Mundane Name: Steven Modra
Group: Innilgard
New Name and Device
30 Sable, a saltire within four wolves heads argent, overall a six petaled rose purpure
Permitted Name Changes: Minor changes to grammar and spelling
Permitted Device Changes: Nothing specific
Language: English?
Steven: Withycombe p.273 under Stephen lists Steuen dated 1379 and Steven dated 1450.
Rosenwolf: Of Germanic origin similar to names like Rosengarten but as I do not have any German sources and no documentation was provided I cannot comment and will pass it on to those who can.
The device uses the non-standard rose, the normal one having five petals, and is in a somewhat strange position. It is neither overall or on the saltire but somewhere in between. If the submittor desires it to be on the saltire, as it was originally blazoned, it should be smaller, otherwise, it should be much larger. This in itself is not enough for return in my opinion. As it does not appear to be in conflict I will send it on.
Consulting Herald: Viscountess Alisaundre de Kilmaron

SCA Name: William Bekwith
Mundane Name: Kornelis Sietsma
Group: Krae Glas
New Name and Device
30 Argent, five cross crosslets in cross sable
Permitted Name Changes: Minor changes to grammar and spelling
Permitted Device Changes: No box checked

Language: English
William: p.293 Withycombe. Whilst this spelling is not dated its use seems consistent with period naming practices. In Norman English it was probably Guillaume.
Bekwith: p.29 D.O.B.S. dates Adam Bekwith to 1423.
This submission seems entirely reasonable and the device seems clear of conflict.
Consulting Herald: Thomas Flamanc of Kelsale

Returns

SCA Name: Piers of Malmesbury
Mundane Name: Peter J Chappell
Group: Ynns Fawr
New name and Device
30 Per pale gules and azure, three arrows, one in pale points to chief, two in saltire points to base argent.
Permitted Name Changes: None not even holding name.
Permitted Device Changes: None at all.

Submission Details:
Language: Norman English
The device, whilst very nice, is in conflict with azure, vetu, a sheaf of three arrows inverted argent. device Rannulf of Arrow's Keep (SCA 6/90). As there is no difference between an arrow and an arrow inverted this charge is, to all intents and purposes, a sheaf of arrows with 2 arrows moved through less than 20 degrees.
Consulting Herald: Name: Hr"olf Herj"olfsson
Device: Ciaran Foalchara

John Patrick Sawyer (sawyer@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au)
aka Thomas Flamanc of Kelsale
Baryl Pursuivant.