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December 1997
Those wonderful people who helped.
Baron Osgot of Corfe (David Carter)
Master Tovye Woolmongere (Tony Stankiewicz) PE
Viscount Haos Windchaser Pursuivant (Danny Bartel)
Viscountess Bryony Beekeeper (Brenda Bartel)
Lady Katerina da Brescia (Karen Ogden)
Dafydd yr Estron (David Carlisle)
William Blacwode (Andrew Kenner)
Next meeting
January 4th 1998, 2pm. Meetings will usually be on the first
Sunday of the month at 2pm. Call first if you are bringing a submission
to the meeting.
This is your last issue (unless you renew)
Steven Maynard
Andrew Pass
Susie Hobbs
Aron Paul
Peter Kearins
Narelle Griffin
Linda Ramsbottom
Important Addresses
Hund Herald: þorfinn Hrolfsson. External commentary
franchise and heraldic publications. [Steven Roylance] 1592 Malvern Road,
Glen Iris VIC 3146. Ph (03) 9885 6348.
Cannon Pursuivant: Haos Windchaser. Precedence and Gentry list. [Danny
Bartel] PO Box 1623 Kersbrook SA 5231. Ph (08) 8389 3404.
Baryl Pursuivant: Thomas Flamanc of Kelsale. External commentary.
[John Sawyer] Ph (03) 9543 4847.
Bombard Pursuivant: þorfinn Hrolfsson. Ceremonies deputy.
Positions vacant:Field/voice deputy; regional mentors.
Subscriptions
C.A.M.(e).L. is available from Crux Australis at $20 per year.
Make cheques payable to "SCA Inc. College of Heralds". Note that
due to lower production costs, the Camel will cost $20 a year, from 1st
January 1998. Laurel's Letter of Acceptance and Return is available from
the SCA College of Arms, C/O Mistress Sionyn Muirgen niDhomnall, Pelican
Queen of Arms...
Jackie Watson
3532 Winding Wind Cove
Bartlett TN 38135-3044, USA
...for US$25 per year. Make cheques payable to "SCA Inc. - College
of Arms".
Please note that everything of relevance to Lochac will be published in
the CAMeL.
From Crux
This month I would like to explain my philosophy about rosters
and heraldic ranks.
Any Herald in training or any volunteer in a tabard for a day is a Cornet.
Cornets officially wear green baldrics with crossed gold trumpets. In practical
terms, they probably wear whatever was lent to them.
The first permanent heraldic rank is a Pursuivant Extrordinary, or PE. A
PE should be competent in at least one area of heraldry, i.e. book, field
or court, and have at least a vague idea about the others. I will not roster
a PE without being assured that they know the basics of book heraldry. You
do not have to be a PE to be a group herald, but if you are not, I will
roster you as 'acting' until you have enough experience to be a PE. I may
ask you to sit a simple test on book heraldry before I roster you.
A Pursuivant should be competent in all heraldic areas and shine in at least
one. This rank is personal, like that of PE, and stays with you whether
you are a group herald or not. Ideally baronial heralds should be pursuivants,
and if they are not, they are 'acting' pursuivant. This is like 'higher
duties' in the Public Service.
Some officers carry the title Herald. So while I am Crux, my title is Herald.
In a couple of years, I will be a pursuivant again. Only rare individuals
are given a permanent title of herald. Master þorfinn Hrolfsson, Hund
Herald is the only one in Lochac.
How do you get rostered? Write to me and introduce yourself. I should know
of your activities from the reports from your group herald. If I don't,
let me know what you have been doing. I will not roster any group herald
unless they write to me personally. If you want a "promotion"
talk to me, and I'll consider it. I will let you know if I consider that
you need more experience or skills. I will only roster group heralds for
two years; after two years, you can ask for a further two years. I have
a number of heralds on the roster who may not be active, and who have probably
changed address. I would like your comments on the proposal that heralds
be removed from the roster for inactivity after, say, two years. The roster
is so inaccurate that it has a dead man on it! The difficulty is how to
measure activity. I look forward to your comments.
Aislinn.
Reports
I have received reports from the Barony of Stormhold, cantons
and colleges; the Barony Ynys Fawr, the Barony of Innilgard, colleges and
canton; the Barony of River Haven , the Shire of Mordenvale, the Barony
of Politarchopolis, The Shire of Agaricus. Well done! In answer to some
issues raised by the reports:
Drogo: It is not my policy to offer free Crux subscriptions. However,
feel free to copy your Camel for your cantons, as long as they get the whole
document. The Camel is also available on my website, found through the Lochac
site.
All: Remember, it is not enough to tell me of changes of canton and college
heralds in your reports. The new officer must write to me, and sign a roster
letter. A letter from the outgoing officer naming his of her sucessor is
nice too.
Yyns Fawr: I do not have a Crux subscription for you, only for Paul Harris.
Kyrii: I like your emphasis on communication up and down the line. I am
sure your canton heralds appreciate your monthly newsletters. You do not
need to send me copies of the Court Heralds Award Form. They should go to
Lochac Scribe and Chronicler, and my deputies Canon and Bombard. You are
using an outdated form. Bombard can give you an up to date one.
Reports from the following groups are overdue:
- Amesbury
- Aneala
- Dismal Fogs
- Hunter's Isle
- Rowany
- Saint Florians-de-la-Riviere
- Schoental
- St Aldhelm
- St Gildas the Wise
- St Ursula
- Stahlburg
- Torlyon
- Saedeor
The reports for these groups are overdue. Some of these groups did not report
adequately in the last round of reports. If I do not receive reports from
these groups IMMEDIATELY, I will be writing to the group Seneschals , and
considering the roster status of the heralds in question. If you have trouble
reporting, for goodness sake, at least give me a phone call. The office
of herald is a required one. Every group must have a herald. How can I help
you if you do not report?You should keep a copy for your files, and give
copies to your Seneschal, Baron and Baroness and College/Canton Heralds.
The sort of things I would like to see in a report include:
- date of report
- submissions made by the group
- names of active Heralds and what they have been doing, e.g.. Consulting,
court, field work
- recommendations for rostering e.g.. as PE etc.
- any questions you may have for me
- problems you have encountered (preferably with solutions!)
- anything else you feel I or Heralds in other groups should know,
or would benefit from.
The report does not have to be long, or 'forsooth'. It should
give me a picture of how Heraldry is going in your group, and what assistance
I can give you. It will also help me with assessing requests from Heralds
for ranks as PE's or Pursuivants. The next quarterly reports are due by
1st April 1998.
Heraldic Resources
Master (Thorfinn) þorfinn is the Australian Agent for
Free Trumpet Press. As the Australian dollar is plunging in value, I have
not included a price list as it will already be out of date. Contact þorfinn
directly for the latest prices. I also recommend that groups acquire some
name resources, in particular Reaney and Withycombe.
Submission Requirements.
Cost: $15 per name, and $15 per device or badge. No cost for
resubmissions. Make cheques payable to "SCA Inc College of Heralds".
We currently send US$3 (approximately AUS$4.50) to Laurel for each item
This will rise as of 1st January 1998 to US$4 (approximately AUS$ 5.90).
I will try and absorb the cost increase for as long as possible, but if
the Aussie dollar continues to drop, I will have to increase my charges.
Copies required for submissions:
- Names: 4 copies of Name form and ALL documentation, including title
page of each book.
- Devices/Badges: 5 COLOUR copies and one BLACK & WHITE copy.
The colour copies should be accurately coloured, preferably in felt tip
pen. e.g.. Crayola Classic Colours. Faint colour printers or faint coloured
pencil is not acceptable. The colours must be visible across a crowded Herald's
meeting!
I will reject submissions without a black and white copy as
I need to scan it to produce the Letter of Intent for Laurel.
Please check that submitters have ALL documentation. Remember, they have
to present their submission in a way that makes registration easy. Name
documentation should be as accurate as possible, and copies supplies unless
the reference is standard such as Reaney and Withycombe. Even then, the
page and edition should be quoted.
I know that some of you have few name resources. There is a lot of help
available if you ask for it. I or someone overseas may well be able to help
with that tricky name. If you cannot document a name well, you can still
submit it, BUT submitters should be made aware that if they check the 'make
no changes' box, their name will be returned even if ONE letter is incorrect.
Most submissions I have seen are of an excellent quality. However, it saddens
me to return a good submission just because the artwork or documentation
is incomplete.
Submissions to Laurel
1. Brennan Halfhand
Politarchopolis
Consulting Herald: Giles Leabrook
Name already registered, device resubmitted.
Device: Argent an eagle striking and on a bordure vert four oak leaves in
cross argent. Blazon was changed from seme of oak leaves to reflect the
blazon, and also to avoid a conflict.
2. Cecily de Montsalvy
Catellum Montanum
Consulting Herald: Eleanor of Abergavenny
Name submitted in August, 1997. Device resubmitted, as hind leg was missing
in original submission
Device: Azure within a bordure ermine, a winged unicorn passant argent.
3. Gerard du Montagne
Innilgard
Consulting Herald: himself
New name: will leave spelling. Laurel may change to Montaigne if required.
Language: French
Documentation: Montagne; Hanks and Hodges p372; Montagne meaning mountain.
Alternate spelling of Montaigne may be more period. Gerard: Withycombe 3rd
ed. p131.
4. Giovannino di Vidor
Innilgard
Consulting Herald: Armand de Rocheforte
New name and device. Argent on a pile purpure, a double bitted axe argent.
Language: Italian
Documentation submitted: Giovannino: documentation copy supplied from Italian
Gothic Sculpture by John Pope-Hennessy : Giovannino di Grassi active from
1389 to 1398. Vidor: Small town in north of Italy. documentation copy supplied
from Italian reference; Vidor...centro anni di storia. See Returns for device.
5. Gwenhwyvar of Abergavenny
Innilgard
Consulting Herald: Tovye Woolmongre
New name and Device. Vert a stag at gaze or on a base embowed sable.
Language: Welsh
Documentation submitted: Gwenhwyvar: Withycombe p140 Abergavenny: place
name dating 1191. The Counties of Britain by John Speed p26 and Dictionary
of English Place names 4th ed. .by Eilert Ekwall p1. Both name and device
seem clear.
6. Katerina Raedaria
Politarchopolis
Name registered in March 1997.
New device: Gules, on a bend sinister argent a seven spoked wheel azure,
between two increscents argent. Device appears clear of conflict.
7. Nerrisa de Saye
Saint Florians de la Riviere
Consulting Herald: originally herself
Name registered in September 1996. Device returned September 1997 by Laurel,
for Voiding secondary charges (crowns).
Device: Per pale gules and purpure, between three western crowns or,
a unicorn passant regardant argent, armed and crined or. The submitter
has corrected the problem by removing the voiding. The submitter is a Viscountess
and therefore entitled to use crowns in her arms.
8. Osbert of Tewkesbury
Innilgard
Consulting Herald: Tovye Woolmongere
New name and device: Gules, between two broadarrows, on a pile throughout
inverted or, a broadarrow inverted gules.
Language: English
Documentation supplied: Osbert: New American Dictionary of First Names which
is on the 'Names sources to be Avoided in Documentation' list Appendix F
of Administrative Handbook (web ref: http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/admin.html)
However, it was found in Withycombe pp234,235, being a Norman French version
of Old English name Osbeorht. Tewkesbury: Place name documented in The Concise
Oxford Dictionary of English Place Names 4th ed. p464.
Device: blazoned as pheons, however was changed to broadarrows, as pheons
have serrated inside edges. Both names and device appear clear of conflict.
The only possible conflict could be gules, on a pile inverted throughout
between two anchors or, a bear's head erased sable (Sven Magnusson, Sep
1984). However we feel that there is sufficient difference between an anchor
and broadarrow and so have passed it on up to Laurel.
Returns
9. Giovannino di Vidor
Innilgard
Consulting Herald: Armand de Rocheforte
New device: Argent on a pile purpure, a double bitted axe argent.
Device conflicts with Gabriella Maddelena Pisano: Argent, on a pile purpure
between two common blue irises slipped and leaved proper, a houndstooth
burnisher argent and badge: Argent, on a pile purpure, a hounstooth burnisher
argent. Device returned for changing. Other option is to gain permission
from Gabriella Maddelena Pisano for conflict.
References:
Ekwall Eilert, The Concise Oxford Dictionary of English Place Names. 4th
ed. p47
Hanks, Patrick and Hodges, Flavia: Dictionary of Surnames
Speed, John, The Counties of Britain, p26
Withycombe E.G., The Oxford Dictionary of English Christian Names, Oxford
University Press, UK, 1979
From the November Letter of Acceptances and Returns
Registrations
Ailern Éireannach. Name.
Styvyn Longshanks. Device.
Gules, a comet bendwise sinister argent ermined gules.
Urusla von Ausbach. Name.