Mistress Aislinn de Valence
Crux Australis Herald
Megan Dansie
P.O. Box 526
Unley SA 5061
Phone: IDD+61 8 8293 6635

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Submissions to Laurel | June Letter

July 1998

Those wonderful people who helped.

William Forrester de Blacwode, Katerina da Brescia and Tovye Woolmongere.
Next meeting
Sunday 16th August, 2pm. Call first if you are bringing a submission to the meeting.
This is your last issue (unless you renew)
Narelle Griffin, David Houston.
Important Addresses
Hund Herald: þorfinn Hrolfsson. External commentary franchise and heraldic publications. [Steven Roylance] 1592 Malvern Road, Glen Iris VIC 3146. Ph (03) 9885 6348.

Cannon Pursuivant: Haos Windchaser. Precedence and Gentry list. [Danny Bartel] PO Box 1623 Kersbrook SA 5231. Ph (08) 8389 3404.

Baryl Pursuivant: Thomas Flamanc of Kelsale. External commentary. [John Sawyer] Ph (03) 9543 4847.

Bombard Pursuivant: þorfinn Hrolfsson. Ceremonies deputy.

Drop Dead Deputy: Giles Leabrook [Braddon Giles] 58/122 Saunders St Pyrmont NSW 2009. Ph (02) 9660 3865

Positions vacant:Field/voice deputy; regional mentors.
C.A.M.(e).L. is available from Crux Australis at $20 per year. Make cheques payable to "SCA Inc. College of Heralds".

Note that due to lower production costs, the Camel will cost $20 a year from 1st January 1998.

Laurel's Letter of Acceptance and Return is available from the SCA College of Arms, C/O Mistress Sionyn Muirgen niDhomnall, Pelican Queen of Arms, Jackie Watson, 3532 Winding Wind Cove, Bartlett, TN 38135-3044, USA for US$25 per year. Make cheques payable to "SCA Inc. - College of Arms".

Please note that everything of relevance to Lochac will be published in the CAMeL.
From Crux
Next month I hope to have the new forms ready. It is still fine to give out the old forms, just warn submittors that they will be out of date at the end of this year. I will put the new forms on my web page if I can ensure that they are printed without any alteration to the format.

What happens to your submission?
After I receive a submission, I check to see if the appropriate money and number of forms are included. If they are, I make up a folder if it is a new submission. The folder contains a complete history of that client's submissions. If my predecessors have done their job right (and most of them have) there will be copies of all previous paperwork if it is a resubmission. The submission is then discussed at my monthly meeting. We check for conflicts, as well as style and adherence to the Rules for Submissions. The minutes of that meeting are summarised in the Camel. I then prepare a Letter of Intent for Laurel. It contains the items that we intend to register. This letter is sent to around 50 members of the College of Arms (CoA) for commentary on the submissions. Lady Laurel allows the College several months to comment on and sometimes debate the submissions. For example, she will be considering the Lochac LOI from 25th March at her meeting on 11th July. Laurel then produces a Letter of Acceptances and Returns (LoAR), which she sends to all members of the CoA. I reproduce extracts in the Camel. I then write letters to the submitters telling them if their device has been registered, or if further work is required. I do not write to submitters unless their device is registered, or there is a problem. If a submitter is concerned about the delay, you can use your back issues of the Camel to check the progress of the device, or ask me. However, generally speaking, no news is good news. All submitters should be told that their device will take about 4 to 6 months to process, depending on when in the month I receive it.
A belated report received from Lord Francis of Hexham for Yyns Fawr and subgroups. Thanks, better late than never! I have also heard from Aldric Greybeard of Wolfden, the proposed herald for the incipient canton of River Haven, Drakkers Fjord.

I particularly want to impart my thanks for the wonderful letters received from Castellum Montanum. In the one envelope was a letter of resignation from Eleanor of Abergavenny, a letter from the seneschal approving her successor, and a letter of introduction from Meylor the Elusive. Great paperwork!
Heraldic Resources
Master (Thorfinn) þorfinn is the Australian Agent for Free Trumpet Press. As the Australian dollar is plunging in value, I have not included a price list as it will already be out of date. Contact þorfinn directly for the latest prices.

I also recommend that groups acquire some name resources, in particular Reaney, P.H. & Wilson, R.M. A dictionary of English Surnames and Withycombe ,E.G. The Oxford Dictionary of English Christian Names.
Electronic Resources
The Crux Australis web page at contains useful information for heralds, and links to the SCA Heraldry page, and other general SCA pages. If you have web access, I recommend that you take a look.

Many interesting heraldic links can be found through the SCA Heraldry web page at including the Laurel home page, on-line armorial and ordinary search, and the Academy of St. Gabriel (an heraldic consultation service).
Submission Requirements.
Cost: $15 per name, and $15 per device or badge. No cost for resubmissions. Make cheques payable to "SCA Inc College of Heralds".

We currently send US$4 (approximately AUS$5.90) to Laurel for each item This rose as of 1st January 1998 to US$4 (approximately AUS$ 6.66). I will try and absorb the cost increase form as long as possible, but if the Aussie dollar continues to drop, I will have to increase my charges.

Copies required for submissions:
I will reject submissions without a black and white copy as I need to scan it to produce the Letter of Intent for Laurel.

Please check that submitters have ALL documentation. Remember, they have to present their submission in a way that makes registration easy. Name documentation should be as accurate as possible, and copies supplies unless the reference is standard such as Reaney and Withycombe. Even then, the page and edition should be quoted.

I know that some of you have few name resources. There is a lot of help available if you ask for it. I or someone overseas may well be able to help with that tricky name. If you cannot document a name well, you can still submit it, BUT submitters should be made aware that if they check the 'make no changes' box, their name will be returned even if ONE letter is incorrect.

Most submissions I have seen are of an excellent quality. However, it saddens me to return a good submission just because the artwork or documentation is incomplete.
Submissions to Laurel
1. Gwenhwyvar of Abergavenny

Mundane Name: Dawn Jones

Group: Innilgard

Name registered May 1998. Resubmission of device. Vert a stag at gaze on a base embowed Or.

2. Llewelyn "Cadno" de Granville

Mundane Name: Christopher Adams

Consulting Herald: self

Resubmission of name to Laurel. This came with only one copy for the name form. Resubmissions must have all copies of the paperwork, just like a new submission. As this is a light month, I will copy the forms, just this once.

The previous name returned by Laurel was Llewelyn de Granville of Gwent (known as Cadno). The submitter has removed the second locative, and the nickname Cadno is now after the given name. Llewelyn can be found in Withycombe p197. de Granville appears in Bardsley p152 as a Norman family name. Cadno is Welsh for fox, and forms a nickname. The submitter does not permit any changes.
From Laurel's June Letter of Acceptances and Returns

Brand Regenald. Device change. Gules, a roundel per pale embowed counterembowed argent and sable, overall, a sword Or. His former device Gules, a roundel per pale embowed counterembowed argent and sable, overall, a sword Or, hilted argent, is hereby released.

Brand Regenald. Badge. Gules, two dragons combattant and a base rayonny Or.

Dafydd Wallraven. Name and device. Per fess argent and purpure masoned argent, in chief a raven close sable.

Sibón nic Ghiolla Phádraig. Change of name from Marguerite Russell of Paisley. Submitted as Sibón nic Ghiolla Phadraig, the byname was missing an accent. We have corrected this.


Caínnear an Ruad. Name and device. Gules, on a pale Or between in chief two flames proper, a dragon s head couped gules, a bordure sable. The name is being returned for incorrect construction. Gaelic doesn't use "an" in names. The correct construction should be Caínnear Ruadh or Caínnear Ruad. Since the submitter does not accept changes, the name must be returned. The armory is being returned for breaking the rule of contrast, (color on color) with a black bordure on a red field.

Giovannino di Vidor. Device. Argent, three piles inverted conjoined in point purpure, on the center pile a double bitted axe inverted argent. No forms were received, so this is being returned for lack of paperwork. However, when resubmitting, please instruct the submitter on how to properly drawn piles inverted and conjoined. Based on how the miniature was drawn we would have to reblazon it as Gyronny of seven from center chief argent and purpure, a double-bitted axe inverted argent. Unfortunately, such a blazon would not be period style. Therefore, we would have had to returned it for non-period style. Furthermore, that conflicts with Anne Gray Per chevron inverted azure and argent, in chief a double-bitted axe inverted argent, with one CD for the difference in the fields.