Mistress Aislinn de Valence
Crux Australis Herald
Megan Dansie
P.O. Box 526
Unley SA 5061
Phone: IDD+61 8 8293 6635

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Submissions to Laurel | Laurel's July Letter

September 1998

Those wonderful people who helped.

Master Osgot of Corfe, Lady Katerina da Brescia, Mistress Aislinn de Valence
Next meeting
Sunday 11th October, 2pm. Meetings will usually be on the first Sunday of the month at 2pm. Call first if you are bringing a submission to the meeting.
Important Addresses
Hund Herald: þorfinn Hrolfsson. External commentary franchise and heraldic publications. [Steven Roylance] 1592 Malvern Road, Glen Iris VIC 3146. Ph (03) 9885 6348.

Cannon Pursuivant: Haos Windchaser. Precedence and Gentry list. [Danny Bartel] PO Box 1623 Kersbrook SA 5231. Ph (08) 8389 3404.

Baryl Pursuivant: position vacant

Bombard Pursuivant: þorfinn Hrolfsson. Ceremonies deputy.

Drop Dead Deputy and Sydney Regional Mentor: Giles Leabrook [Braddon Giles] 58/122 Saunders St Pyrmont NSW 2009. Ph (02) 9660 3865

Positions vacant:Field/voice deputy; regional mentors.
C.A.M.(e).L. is available from Crux Australis at $20 per year. Make cheques payable to "SCA Inc. College of Heralds". Laurel's Letter of Acceptance and Return is available from the SCA College of Arms, C/O Mistress Sionyn Muirgen niDhomnall, Pelican Queen of Arms, Jackie Watson, 3532 Winding Wind Cove, Bartlett, TN 38135-3044, USA for US$25 per year. Make cheques payable to "SCA Inc. - College of Arms".

Please note that everything of relevance to Lochac will be published in the CAMeL.
From Crux
I have not yet seen any submissions on the new forms. If you have any questions regarding the forms, please let me know. One useful comment that I did receive was that we will have to take more time with submitters to make sure the forms are filled out correctly. Please do not just hand out the forms, and then pass them on without checking.

Please also use this as an opportunity to check that enough copies of the documentation are included. I really do not have the time at work to make extra copies, or to highlight those copies. I will be returning submissions that do not have 4 copies of the documentation.

Also, don't forget the new submission price is $20 per item.

Read the Camel!

Please read and file every Camel. I include essential information in the Camel, and I expect every group herald to read it. I will be less than impressed if I have to answer questions individually that were answered in the most recent issue! Of course, if something in the Camel is unclear, or you need further information, I will be happy to help you.

Web Page Update

The Crux web page now contains the new submissions forms and guide, the Lochac Heraldic Policy, and Information for New Heralds. If you have web access, I suggest you check it out. If anyone would like to prepare electronic versions of the forms in formats other than Word 6, please contact me.

In preparing the Policy , I was impressed (but not surprised) to discover how much truly useful stuff was recorded by Master Gereint Scholar when he was Crux. I just wish to pay tribute to his remarkable skill as a communicator.

Position Vacant

Lord Thomas has retired as Baryl Pursuivant.. I apologise for mistakenly saying he was Bombard last month. If anyone would like to take on the position of my deputy for external commentary, please contact me for more details of the job.

November Coronet

I will be holding a heralds meeting during the weekend of November Coronet in Innilgard. All heralds are welcome, group heralds in particular.
Quarterly reports are due from all groups on the 14th of October (one month before Coronet).

Reports received this month from:
Steven of Parvus Portus asks how current his copies of the Armorial and Ordinary, and Pictorial Dictionary are. The Armorial and Ordinary is up to update 20. I there is a second edition of the Pic Dic. Updates and the Pic Dic can be ordered from Master Thorfinn.
Heraldic Resources
Master (Thorfinn) þorfinn is the Australian Agent for Free Trumpet Press. As the Australian dollar is plunging in value, I have not included a price list as it will already be out of date. Contact þorfinn directly for the latest prices.

I also recommend that groups acquire some name resources, in particular Reaney, P.H. & Wilson, R.M. A dictionary of English Surnames and Withycombe ,E.G. The Oxford Dictionary of English Christian Names.
Electronic Resources
The Crux Australis web page at contains useful information for heralds, and links to the SCA Heraldry page, and other general SCA pages. If you have web access, I recommend that you take a look.

Many interesting heraldic links can be found through the SCA Heraldry web page at including the Laurel home page, on-line armorial and ordinary search, and the Academy of St. Gabriel (an heraldic consultation service).
Submission Requirements.
Cost: $20 per name, and $20 per device or badge. No cost for resubmissions. Make cheques payable to "SCA Inc College of Heralds".

Use the new submission forms. Throw out your old forms! No submissions accepted on the old forms after 1st December.

Copies required for submissions:
I will reject submissions without a black and white copy as I need to scan it to produce the Letter of Intent for Laurel.

Please check that submitters have ALL documentation. Remember, they have to present their submission in a way that makes registration easy. Name documentation should be as accurate as possible, and copies supplies unless the reference is standard such as Reaney and Withycombe. Even then, the page and edition should be quoted.

I know that some of you have few name resources. There is a lot of help available if you ask for it. I or someone overseas may well be able to help with that tricky name. If you cannot document a name well, you can still submit it, BUT submitters should be made aware that if they check the 'make no changes' box, their name will be returned even if ONE letter is incorrect.

Lost Souls?
I have a number of submissions in my cabinet that were returned a long time ago, and there have been no further submissions. These gentles have already paid for their submission. There is no cost for resubmissions at this time. I listed some names in the last Camel. If the person is in your group, please remind them that their submission is still pending, and see if you can help them to resubmit. Some people may have given up after several attempts. Some returns were for minor things, like a redraw. They may have a better chance of getting their device registered since the 'modest proposal' was implemented. Some people just need a bit more help with name documentation. Some devices are just waiting on an acceptable name. We cannot force people to resubmit, but we should encourage them.

Name, Group, Date returned, Item returned
Aedward Stadefaeste Mordenvale Sept 94 device
Ailig a'mire Bacchus Wood Oct 97 name and device
Alev Hobesepp Innilgard Jan 95 Name and device
Amesbury, College of Aug 97 name and device
Bran Aelvin cu Chaille Stormhold Feb 96 name and device
Bran Torc Dubh Domhnallach mordenvale Nov 97 name and device
Brianna Mervert Aneala March 94 name and device
Bruinneach nic Thighearnain Innilgard Nov 96 device
Caen Lamont of County Clare St Florians June 97 name (device pended)
Caintigern ingen Dearbail Mael Brigte Politarchopolis June 94 device(mundane conflict- try again now!)
Christia Barrett Rowany ?1980s device- but this may now go through- I just need the gentle's current address, so I can contact her
Cailtin of the Magic Hands Politarchopolis Feb 97 Name (device pended)
Constanzia Maria Morales Enzina d'Zamora ? St Florians Nov 97 Name and device
Damian Greybeard Politarchopolis Sept 94 device
Edmund the Lame Stormhold June 96 device
Eleanor Flambard FitzWilliam of Winson Rowany June 95 device
Gunnric Mac Alpin Mordenvale March 91 device
Gwydiaon de Naturlaege Innilgard Sept 96 name and device
Hanbal Al"Zaki Wahidi Stormhold July 96 name and device
Healfdene Sunchaser Aneala Fen 94 name and device
Hrothgar aet Gytingbroc Rowany June 95 name(device pended)
Jordaine de Marcenais Schoental Sept 97 device
Katerina Faulhaber Poltarchopolis March 96 device
Louisa Reynell Politarchopolis Sept 95 device
Lucia di Carpazi Politarchopolis June 94 name and device
Marcellus the Damascene Aneala August 97 device
Marcus Waffenschmied Politarchopolis Sept 95 device
Morrigan Scathach Innilgard Jan 97 name and device
Nimue na Ruad Politarchopolis March 96 name and device
Riona of Caerlon Rowany June 96 name
Sagar of Montdragon Aneala May 96 device
Seona Dunliath ni Sheachnasaugh Stormhold August 97 device
Tangwystl ferch Iestyn Goch St Ursula July 96 device
Tomas del Valle de Bravo Innilgard July 97 device
William of Lydford Innilgard June 96 device
Wulfrich der Hrafn Hawksreach NK name
Yves le Chat Blanc Mordenvale June 96 device
Submissions to Laurel
1. Bran Torc Dubh Mac Brude
Mundane Name: Bruce Hanwright
Consulting Herald: Adam Girard
Group: Mordenvale

Resubmission of name and device to Crux. Argent a boar statant sable. Returned by Crux November 1997.

The submitter's former name submission was Bran Torc Dubh Domhallach. It was returned for further documentation, in particular of Bran as a Scots name and Domhnallach which the submittor claimed mean "little Donald". He has changed that portion of the name. He claims the language of the name is Scot's English and Scot's Gaelic.

Bran appears as the name of a nephew of a Pictish king who dies c.595 in Anderson. Also as a witness to a charter 1166 in Watson., and in two other references. Torc Dubh means black boar. The New English Gaelic Dictionary confirms this. It appears to be grammatically correct and to follow the formation for blackbird which is lon dubh. Mac is a Scots patronymic. Brude was the name of several kings of the Picts in the sixth to eighth centuries. It is a variant, possibly Anglizied spelling of Bruide.

The rather nice device clears the design problems of the first submission by removing the complex knotwork border, and making the "celtic" depiction of the boar a scribal note. The boar was blazoned as sinister, but it was emblazoned to dexter. The device is clear of the fieldless badge of Richard III A White Boar In count one CD (clear difference) for the field under RfS X.4.iii, and one for the colour of the boar. It is also clear of ( Fieldless) A boar statant contourney sable. I count one CD for the field, and one for the orientation of the boar.

2. Emma de Lastone

Mundane Name: Margaret Rendell
Consulting herald: Cormac Lenihan
Group: Krae Glas

New name. Emma is in Withycombe p 103 dating to 1188-1219. Lastone is in Ekwall p289 as found in the Domesday Book. Please note that the original documentation while good, did not have enough copies.

3. Foxwood, Canton of

Consulting herald: Tanya of Shoreham

New device. Change of name submitted to Laurel May 1998. Argent a fox mask gules within a wreath vert, an embattled bordure azure.

The appropriate petition was received.

4. Lyssandre le Téméraire

Mundane Name: Brendan Lloyd
Consulting herald: self
Group: Agaricus

New name and device Sable crusilly argent a gargoyle's head in chief three fleurs-de-lys Or, a bordure ermine.

is a French variant of Alexander, Dauzat p401. le Téméraire is French for "the bold, or reckless" . Charles the Bold was a Duke of Burgundy, and is precedent for the use of this byname.

The submitter gives permission for the device to conflict with Martin le Mechant's new device.

5. Martin le Méchant

Mundane Name: Bernard Lyons
Consulting herald: Lyssandre le Téméraire
Group: Agaricus

Change of registered device to Sable crusilly argent a gargoyle's head Or, a bordure ermine. I would like to see the head drawn much larger. The submitter has acknowledged the need to do this in the Scribe's Notes.

The submitter gives permission to conflict to Lyssandre le Téméraire.
References: Anderson, Marjorie O., Kings and Kingship in Early Scotland (Edinburgh 1973)
Albert Dauzat, Les Noms de Famille de France
Ekwall Eilert, The Concise Oxford Dictionary of English Place Names. 4th ed.
Thomson, Derek S., The New English- Gaelic Dictionary (Glasgow 1996)
Watson, William J., The history of Celtic Place names in Scotland (Irish University Press 1973)
Withycombe E.G., The Oxford Dictionary of English Christian Names, Oxford University Press, UK, 1979
From Laurel's July Letter of Acceptances and Returns

Raffaella da Monza. Name and device. Per chevron sable and azure, a rabbit sejant erect, in chief two roses argent. Submitted as Raffaella de Monza, in Italian da is used to say of a place. We have made the appropriate correction.

Saint Malachy, College of. Name (see RETURNS for device).

Wilfred de Ackelonde. Name.

William Forester de Blacwode. Name and device. Argent, a tree sable within an orle azure.

Ysabeau de Vézelay. Name.


André Davignon. Name. This is being returned for an aural conflict with Ambré d'Avignon, as cited on the LoI. The change from André to Ambré is too slight to grant difference.

André the Rorqual. Name. While the LoI documented Rorqual as the French word for whale, no documentation was presented for it being used as a byname. Furthermore according to Dauzat's Dictionnaire étymologique et Historique du Français, rorqual is first found in 1808 and derives from old Norwegian raudh-hwalr, "red whale." Barring documentation of its period use as a name this must be returned.

Bryn-a-Môr, Canton of. Name and device. Per fess wavy Or and barry wavy azure and Or, in chief three arrows inverted palewise surmounted by a bow fesswise and in base a laurel wreath vert. This name is being returned for conflicting with the college of Bryn Mawr which is important enough to have its own entry in The Encyclopedia Britannica. Since we do not form holding names for groups, the device must be returned as well.

Saint Malachy, College of. Device. Argent, in pale two hammers in saltire and an anvil sable within a laurel wreath, on a chief wavy vert an open book argent. This is being returned for redesign. As drawn the hammers are too small to be considered part of the primary charge group. Normally we would send it back for a redraw, but if the hammers were drawn large enough, the submission would have to be returned for violating our rule on "slot machine" with three dissimilar charges in the same group.

Ysabella de Montrose. Device. Quarterly Or and sable, in dexter chief a rose proper. This conflicts with the House of Lancaster A rose gules. There is one CD for fielded vs. fieldless, but nothing for position on the field versus a fieldless badge or for the tincture of the barbs and seeds.