Crux Australis Herald

Baron Uberto Renaldi [mka Nigel Castle]

GPO Box 2719, Adelaide SA 5001, Australia

phone: (08) 8336 6791 or intl +618 8336 6791

"The CAMeL"
July 2000 (A.S. XXXIV)

Unto the College of Heralds of the Principality of Lochac, and all others who may read this missive, from Baron Uberto Renaldi, Crux Australis Herald, greetings!

In this issue…..

Reports | Kingdom Device Questionnaire | December’s submissions delayed

Roster changes | Important addresses | Subscriptions and Resources

Submission requirements | Meeting schedule | Recent submissions

News of previous submissions | Court Heraldry, An Tir style!


Midwinter thanks

Thanks to all those who assisted me at Midwinter, especially Declan of Drogheda, Francis of Hexham, Master Hrolf Herjolfsson and Loyola Juan Sanchez Mendoza.

Your servant,

Baron Uberto Renaldi,

Crux Australis Herald


The next quarterly reports are due by Saturday 2 September 2000.

Kingdom Device Questionnaire

A reminder that these must be completed and returned to me by Friday 18 August 2000 - please make copies and distribute them to as many people as you can.

I also still need volunteers to help design the new Kingdom device using the feedback from these forms. If I get no offers of assistance I will simply design it by myself - and the result may not be pretty!

December’s submissions delayed

As I am usually quick to point out to others that they have stuffed up, I feel it only fair to publicly admit when I do the same.

First some background. When I receive submissions I check them at my next meeting then, if there is no reason to pend them or return them for further work, I include them in a Letter of Intent (LoI) which goes to Laurel Queen of Arms and the commenting members of the SCA College of Arms.

As there are quite a few commenting heralds and most of them reside overseas, the job of distributing these LoIs has been ‘outsourced’ to someone in the USA - I email the LoI to them and they photocopy it, stuff it into envelopes and post it. Although we pay for this service, it still saves the Lochac College of Heralds a lot of money (and me a lot of time).

Unfortunately the LoI containing submissions from my December meeting was not distributed to any of the commenting heralds. Why? Well, at the time the job of distributing our LoIs had just changed hands, and the new incumbent thought that the LoI I sent them was just an example, or had already been distributed by their predecessor.

This meant that when Laurel came to consider those submissions four months later, they all (with the exception of one) had to be pended as no commentary had taken place on them. The exception was a device submission which Laurel felt required no commentary to support its registration.

Now for the admission: what I should have done was realise sooner that this had happened and have the problem fixed. For this oversight I apologise unreservedly. I have written to all the submittors (whose submissions will now not be considered until late in the year) and explained the situation to them.

Roster changes

Francis of Hexham has stepped down from the office of Dromond Pursuivant in Ynys Fawr, and will remain on the roster as a PE At-Large. His successor is Declan of Drogheda, who has also been elevated to the personal rank of Pursuivant Extraordinary and will be listed on the roster as Acting Dromond Pursuivant.

Lyssandre le Téméraire, aka Jan Antheunis van Ghent, has resigned from the position of PE for Agaricus, which remains vacant. Jan will now be rostered as a PE At-Large.

Yassim Habib has apparently resigned as Goutty d’Eau Pursuivant in Stormhold (I have received nothing in writing). As he never progressed beyond the unofficial rank of ‘cornet’ he has been removed from the roster. A replacement is being arranged.

Finally, Martyn Fairchild of Grenhamerton has been removed from the roster for failing to return a signed copy of his roster letter within 30 days.

Important addresses

Subscriptions and Resources

"The CAMeL" is available from Crux Australis at $20 per year. Make cheques payable to "SCA Inc. College of Heralds".

Laurel's Letter of Acceptance and Return is available from the SCA College of Arms. Send a cheque for $US25 made out to "SCA Inc. — College of Arms" to Bruce R. Nevins, 2527 E. 3rd Street, Tucson AZ, 85716-4114, USA. As usual, everything of relevance to Lochac will be published in "The CAMeL".

Master Thorfinn is the person to talk to about heraldic publications. Possibly the most useful item that he stocks is the ‘Heraldic Pictorial Dictionary for the SCA’ (affectionately known as the PicDic), which will cost you $A8.50 for the first edition or $A12.50 for the second edition. Alternatively, order it directly from the USA via Free Trumpet Press for $US15 (details of their web site are below — and they now take credit cards).

I also recommend that groups acquire some name resources, in particular P.H. Reaney & R.M. Wilson’s ‘A Dictionary of English Surnames’ and E.G. Withycombe’s ‘The Oxford Dictionary of English Christian Names’.

Many interesting heraldic links can be found through the SCA Heraldry web page at including the Laurel home page, on-line armorial and ordinary search, and the Academy of St. Gabriel (an heraldic consultation service). The Free Trumpet Press West web page is or email

Submission Requirements

Cost: $20 per new submission (name, device or badge). No cost for resubmissions or branch submissions. Make cheques payable to "SCA Inc College of Heralds".

Copies required:

  • Names: two (2) copies of both the form and ALL documentation, including title page of each book.
  • Devices and Badges: four (4) colour copies and one (1) black & white OUTLINE copy. The colour copies should be accurately coloured, preferably in felt tip pen (eg Crayola Classic Colours). Faint colour printers or faint coloured pencil is not acceptable. The colours must be visible across a crowded Herald's meeting.

Please include ALL necessary documentation to support each submission. It is the responsibility of the submittor to present their submission in a way that makes registration easy. Name documentation should be as accurate as possible, photocopies supplied (even if the reference is a standard one such as Reaney or Withycombe) and page number(s) and edition should also be quoted.

Meeting schedule

Crux Australis Herald holds a meeting once a month to consider submissions, which are then either forwarded to the College of Arms for commentary (and hopefully registration), returned if we find a conflict or a stylistic problem, or occasionally pended awaiting clarification from the submittor. If we have the time, numbers and enthusiasm, we may also look at and comment on submissions from other Kingdoms.

Crux meetings are usually held at 36 Rosella Street, Payneham SA, starting at 2pm. Please call (08) 8336 6791 or Email beforehand if you intend to bring submissions for processing. The next meeting is scheduled for the 20th August and the one after that will probably be on the 17th September.

If you can't make it to the meetings but would like to participate in commentary via email, drop me a line and I will add you to the 'blazons' mailing list.

Master Thorfinn Hrolfsson, Hund Herald, also holds regular commentary meetings in Melbourne. Please call him for details on (03) 9885 6348.

Recent submissions

Present at the Crux Australis meeting held on Sunday 16th July 2000 was Baron Uberto Renaldi, Crux Australis Herald, and Lord William Forester de Blacwode, Frette Rouge Pursuivant.

The following items were SUBMITTED to Laurel Queen of Arms for registering:

  1. Anne Isabella de Bebington

  2. Group: Ynys Fawr
    Consulting herald: none listed

    New Name

    The submittor desires a female English name of circa 1500 and will accept major changes.

    Both ‘Anne’ and ‘Isabella’ are listed by Withycombe (pages 25-26 and 164 respectively). Anne of Bohemia was the wife of Richard II, and ‘Isabella’ dated at 1199 and 1379, with the variant ‘Issabell’ dated to 1450 and 1535. Eckwall lists the Cheshire town of Bebington on page 33 with this spelling from 1288.

    My only concern is that if this name is of the form , it may not be correctly formed for English names of the 16th century. However, Reaney cites ‘Isabel’ (page 191) as a byname dating from 1275 and ‘Isabelle’ from 1202-16, so ‘Isabella’ may be acceptable as a byname.

  3. William the Black

  4. Group: Schoental
    Consulting herald: Gershom of Ravensdale

    Device Resubmission to Crux Australis
    Sable, a fox sejant guardant, in chief four fleurs-de-lys argent

    The submittor’s previous submission, Sable, a fox sejant guardant with tail curled in front of hind legs argent, was returned by Crux in February 1999 for conflict with Sable, a wolf sejant reguardant within a bordure rayonny argent. Adding the fleurs-de-lys clears this conflict.

  5. Yves de Lyle

  6. Group: College of Saint Gildas
    Consulting herald: Uberto Renaldi

    New Name

    The submittor desires a masculine French name, cares most about the sound and will accept only minor changes.

    ‘Yves’ is in Withycombe on page 167 under ‘Ivo’ as ‘one of the 12 peers who fell at Roncesvalles’. ‘de Lyle’ is in Reaney on page 217 (under ‘Lisle’ et al), with ‘Ralph de Lile’ dated to the 12th century and ‘Henry Lyle’ to 1319. Although listed in the heading, no date is given for ‘de Lyle’.



Eckwall, E. ‘The Concise Oxford Dictionary of English Place Names’. 4th edition., Oxford University Press, 1991.
Reaney, P.H. and Wilson, R.M. ‘A Dictionary of English Surnames’. revised 3rd edition, Routledge London 1997.
Withycombe, E.G. ‘The Oxford Dictionary of English Christian Names’. 2nd edition, Oxford University Press, 1959.

News of previous submissions

From Laurel Queen of Arms’ April 2000 Letter of Acceptances and Returns:

Crispin Sexi. Name.
Dai Bach. Name and device. Per saltire sable and gules, in pale two lion’s jambes erased fesswise Or.
Robert of Strathconan. Name (see RETURNS for device).
Yevan de Leeds. Name.
Submitted as 'Yevan of Leeds', the submitter requested an authentic English name. We have therefore changed the byname to a period form.

Alycie Stirling. Device. Gules, a ferret statant argent.
Conflict with Rima of Rockridge, Gules, an ermine statant guardant proper, with no CD’s for tincture (ermines are primarily white) or the position of the head. The device is also in conflict with the badge for Brittany, An ermine passant argent marked sable. There is only a CD for fieldlessness.
Robert of Strathconan. Device. Sable, a lion’s head erased argent langued gules.
Conflict with Grik Alfriksson, Sable, a natural panther’s head couped between three compass stars argent. There is not a CD for the changes to the head, so there is only a single CD for the deletion of the compass stars. The device is also in conflict with Alphia Biraz-pars, Sable, a natural leopard’s head couped Or marked sable. There is only a single CD for the tincture of the head.

From Laurel Queen of Arms’ May 2000 Letter of Acceptances and Returns:

Sabine du Bourbonnais. Name (see RETURNS for device).
Submitted as Sabine de Bourbonnais, the area is usually referred to with the article, as Le Bourbonnais. We have accordingly changed the article in the locative to match this practice.
Sanchia de la Tourre. Release of name and device. Argent, a comet bendwise sinister and a bordure gules.
Wilfred de Ackelonde. Device. Per pale vert and argent, a dragon contourny gules.

Sabine du Bourbonnais. Device. Azure, on a fess Or three lozenges conjoined azure each charged with a bee Or.
The device violates RfS VIII.1.c.ii, "Layer Limit - Designs may not be excessively layered. All charges should be placed either directly on the field or entirely on other charges that lie on the field." The submitter attempted to fix the layering problem by blazoning the device Or, a fess of three fusils azure, each charged with a bee Or, a chief and a base azure. While it is possible to avoid a style problem by reblazoning, that only holds if the alternate blazon is equally valid. The relative sizes of the three portions of the field, the rarity of period examples combining chiefs and plain bases, and the space between the lozenges and the the sides of the shield make the alternate blazon highly unlikely and thus not a valid blazon.
William the Admirer. Device. Gules, on a fess ermine three compass roses gules.
The name was on the Lochac LoI dated January 1, 2000; however, no one in the College of Arms received that letter. Therefore, this is returned for lack of a given name.

Artemisia de Quieto d’Arzenta. Name.
This item had serious problems in the LoI, to wit, the documentation for the name was not adequately summarized. It is therefore pended to the October 2000 Pelican meeting. Rebecca Corbell and Samantha Guy, "The Life Biography of Artemesia Gentileschi",, notes the Italian painter Artemesia Gentileschi (1593-1653). Talan Gwynek, "15th Century Italian Men's Names",, has Antonio da Quieto d'Arzenta.

Court Heraldry, An Tir style!

The article found at is from the An Tir Heraldic Symposium of A.S. XXXIII. It provides an interesting insight into how things are done elsewhere. Despite the differences, it still contains much useful, practical information.

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